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Post by colash on Mar 5, 2020 21:18:23 GMT
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Post by ian on Mar 5, 2020 23:11:14 GMT
A lot of Water on the pitch at the moment.if you have any old blankets or large towels please drop them other at the ground.
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Post by ian on Mar 6, 2020 10:00:02 GMT
Pitch clear of water and in good nick
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Post by tedtordis on Mar 6, 2020 10:27:39 GMT
Pitch clear of water and in good nick Great news. Well done and thanks to all involved. |
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Post by invictasaint on Mar 6, 2020 10:28:55 GMT
Good oh. Was that down to natural drainage or towel squeezed dr-IAN-age?😁
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Post by ian on Mar 6, 2020 12:47:52 GMT
Natural drainage
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Post by xjr on Mar 6, 2020 14:14:56 GMT
I wonder who is to give way for Roman then ? poor old Jo I guess. |
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Post by colash on Mar 6, 2020 15:36:00 GMT
Got to be as he has scored 4 of our last 6 goals.Plus a Pen on Tuesday. Only makes sense.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2020 17:37:06 GMT
Got to be as he has scored 4 of our last 6 goals.Plus a Pen on Tuesday. Only makes sense. hes also only scored 2 league goals since August. |
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Post by colash on Mar 6, 2020 17:52:38 GMT
Not worried about Since August it's his form now that counts.
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Post by stumpy on Mar 6, 2020 18:07:24 GMT
Got to be as he has scored 4 of our last 6 goals.Plus a Pen on Tuesday. Only makes sense. hes also only scored 2 league goals since August. I've got to say, Anthony, that I don't know why you feel a need to constantly snipe at Jo. Let's just say you're out of sync with the majority of fans there. Given that Cugs says in the Herald "have you got a centre-forward that can hold it up, score goals and work the centre-halves... He comes under that banner" then I think it's pretty clear why he has been signed. Can you honestly say that Jerson has been doing any of those three things for the last three or four months? |
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Post by Joel on Mar 6, 2020 18:10:18 GMT
hes also only scored 2 league goals since August. I've got to say, Anthony, that I don't know why you feel a need to constantly snipe at Jo. Let's just say you're out of sync with the majority of fans there. Given that Cugs says in the Herald "have you got a centre-forward that can hold it up, score goals and work the centre-halves... He comes under that banner" then I think it's pretty clear why he has been signed. Can you honestly say that Jerson has been doing any of those three things for the last three or four months? I think none of our strikers have been scoring as much as we all want so that’s why we signed one. |
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Post by stumpy on Mar 6, 2020 18:27:34 GMT
I think none of our strikers have been scoring as much as we all want so that’s why we signed one. To be fair, Ira has, but even he hasn't been getting as many goals lately and maybe that's down to the teams doubling up on him because they don't see any threat from us down the middle? There was one other point I meant to make, so I will and then leave it at that. Anthony said that most of Jo's recent goals have come in the cup games, as if that somehow means they aren't worth much. What I'd say is the reason for that is that, in the cup games, Jerson has been on the bench and Jo has played as a striker, rather than wasted out wide. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2020 19:17:51 GMT
hes also only scored 2 league goals since August. I've got to say, Anthony, that I don't know why you feel a need to constantly snipe at Jo. Let's just say you're out of sync with the majority of fans there. Given that Cugs says in the Herald "have you got a centre-forward that can hold it up, score goals and work the centre-halves... He comes under that banner" then I think it's pretty clear why he has been signed. Can you honestly say that Jerson has been doing any of those three things for the last three or four months? I’m definitely out of sync given that any time anything ever happens at this football club 90% of this forum’s immediate reaction is to cry about how it’s going to affect Johan. You’ve all been moaning for months that the centre forward isn’t good enough. We sign one. That’s apparently another reason to moan. I’m genuinely stumped as to what would make people happy. |
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Post by gerryhan on Mar 6, 2020 19:27:54 GMT
Can't argue against that. We have needed a center forward for months. I for one am pleased we have finally signed one.
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Post by stumpy on Mar 6, 2020 19:32:15 GMT
I’m definitely out of sync given that any time anything ever happens at this football club 90% of this forum’s immediate reaction is to cry about how it’s going to affect Johan. You’ve all been moaning for months that the centre forward isn’t good enough. We sign one. That’s apparently another reason to moan. I’m genuinely stumped as to what would make people happy. To be honest, I read xjr's comment as slightly tongue in cheek. I'm not unhappy that we've signed Roman. I've probably seen him play more times than anybody else out of the people here (which is zero in most cases) more times probably than whoever it was at Invicta who decided to go for him. He's a decent striker and he'll score goals for us - but not unless he plays fairly centrally. Sure, there's a lot of support for Johan on this forum, and in the Invicta crowd generally. That's because we know how good a player he is and also because he hasn't had the support from Cugley this season that he deserves - and that isn't just from the point of view of team selection. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2020 19:51:59 GMT
I’m definitely out of sync given that any time anything ever happens at this football club 90% of this forum’s immediate reaction is to cry about how it’s going to affect Johan. You’ve all been moaning for months that the centre forward isn’t good enough. We sign one. That’s apparently another reason to moan. I’m genuinely stumped as to what would make people happy. To be honest, I read xjr's comment as slightly tongue in cheek. I'm not unhappy that we've signed Roman. I've probably seen him play more times than anybody else out of the people here (which is zero in most cases) more times probably than whoever it was at Invicta who decided to go for him. He's a decent striker and he'll score goals for us - but not unless he plays fairly centrally. Sure, there's a lot of support for Johan on this forum, and in the Invicta crowd generally. That's because we know how good a player he is and also because he hasn't had the support from Cugley this season that he deserves - and that isn't just from the point of view of team selection. one comment here or there isn’t the issue, from XJR or anybody else, it’s the fact it’s a constant narrative around the situation. It would be great for the club if Johan was scoring goals for fun. Maybe is he being hard done by, personally I’d have given him more game time in place of Jerson this season. What it does feel like however is that for quite a few Johan is the be all and end all on a Saturday, and I don’t get it. Maybe that’s just me misreading things, but when I’m up that scaffold tower having just filmed us score to take the lead and I hear people shouting obscene abuse at the manager from the terraces and don’t even have to look up from my phone to know Johan must be coming off, it makes you wonder. |
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Post by invictahammer on Mar 6, 2020 20:58:31 GMT
I would like Jo to play more as would his parents who are here every week
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Post by finbarr_in_z on Mar 6, 2020 21:43:42 GMT
Sure, there's a lot of support for Johan on this forum, and in the Invicta crowd generally. That's because we know how good a player he is and also because he hasn't had the support from Cugley this season that he deserves - and that isn't just from the point of view of team selection. ...& maybe some element of he's a local lad, & nearly made the big time at Hull. I think there's a lot of pride in that. |
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Post by xjr on Mar 6, 2020 21:45:34 GMT
I think Neil is trying to find a striker who can score goals the way that Neil wants to play. Jo would score more goals if the team around him could anticipate his runs and feed the ball where he wants it. Alfie would get 20 goals with the same service. But the team is not built that way, so we needed a striker that can make goals out of scraps. To be really brutal if Roman is that guy, the players not being used should be released to strengthen the squad in other areas.
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Post by stumpy on Mar 6, 2020 21:58:10 GMT
I think Neil is trying to find a striker who can score goals the way that Neil wants to play. Jo would score more goals if the team around him could anticipate his runs and feed the ball where he wants it. Alfie would get 20 goals with the same service. But the team is not built that way, so we needed a striker that can make goals out of scraps. To be really brutal if Roman is that guy, the players not being used should be released to strengthen the squad in other areas. We had one - he plays for Cray now and is the top scorer in the league.  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2020 22:15:49 GMT
I think Neil is trying to find a striker who can score goals the way that Neil wants to play. Jo would score more goals if the team around him could anticipate his runs and feed the ball where he wants it. Alfie would get 20 goals with the same service. But the team is not built that way, so we needed a striker that can make goals out of scraps. To be really brutal if Roman is that guy, the players not being used should be released to strengthen the squad in other areas. i assume Alfie would rather play further forward than he is but personally I think he’s the best left back I’ve seen at this level and his partnership with Kieron his huge for us. And if he moved forward you’d need him to improve the front 3 more than you’d lose by having a left back without that ability to get up and down, create and score goals and be generally terrorise teams. His goals against Hornchurch and Maldon typify why he’s so good there. Sees the acres of space in front of him and can make that 50+ yard run to pop up completely unmarked. Not many fullbacks can do that at any level. Then you’ve got goals like Tuesday night where teams don’t close him, either because he’s a full back or they’re preoccupied with stopping him finding his more attacking teammates and he can hit them from range. Especially with our Achilles heel this season being breaking down teams that are holding on for a point or 3 having as many players on the pitch that can cause them problems is key. |
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Post by stumpy on Mar 6, 2020 22:26:38 GMT
when I’m up that scaffold tower having just filmed us score to take the lead and I hear people shouting obscene abuse at the manager from the terraces and don’t even have to look up from my phone to know Johan must be coming off, it makes you wonder. There's no getting away from the fact that Johan is very popular with the crowd. There are a lot of good reasons for that, some of which people have mentioned in this thread. But there's something else involved too. If you're on that side of the pitch, then surely you must notice the difference in Neil's attitude towards Jo compared with the majority of the other players? They can make mistake after mistake, have an absolute stinker, and Neil won't say a word, not from the touchline anyway - after the game, maybe, who knows - he just stands there in his usual arms folded, chin in hand pose. Then Jo makes one tiny mistake and its "F***ing hell, Johan!", occasionally followed by a kick at the advertising board behind the dugout. It doesn't help Jo and it is neither fair nor justified. It's something we've seen more than once over the years - Neil for whatever reason gets a down on a player and then they can do nothing right. It's been Johan for most of this season and a bit of last. Before him it was Jordan Wright. Going back much further it was John Ayling. The crowd on the terrace behind the dug outs are more aware of this than anybody and that's why they are so vocal when Jo is taken off (especially when he's far from the most ineffective player on the pitch at the time) - because as well as being popular, he is perceived as the victim of unfairness. I've got to admit it seems that way to me as well. |
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Post by xjr on Mar 6, 2020 22:29:13 GMT
I wasn't pitching for a position change. Making the point that were are going through strikers like condoms at a swingers party. The point about Taylor is well made as always.
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Post by gerryhan on Mar 6, 2020 22:36:23 GMT
A crucial part of this year's success has been the relationship down that left flank between Alfie and Kieron. Not just offensively but defensively also. The modern full-back is different from when I played as a winger. They mainly just kicked me!! Alfie is typical of the type. Small, quick, skillful and can score.
Lucky to have him.
Jerson`s loss of form as the central striker had to be addressed at some point.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2020 22:40:05 GMT
I wasn't pitching for a position change. Making the point that were are going through strikers like condoms at a swingers party. The point about Taylor is well made as always. didn't think you were, was just giving my thoughts on Alfie. Unfortunately we haven’t got the budget to go out and get Jamie Cureton or sign Lewes’ leading scoring like the clubs around us when we have a couple of bad results. And our catchment area doesn’t help. The 2 lad’s we’ve bright in so far were both free agents and didn’t work for different reasons. Chinny looked like he might, he was lively in front of goal and constantly worried defences, even at Bognor when he ended up coming off because of his lack of fitness. Before this season we had Ade and if we still had him I reckon we’d be clear at the top of the league even with our games in hand. Unfortunately for us because he was that good he was able to go full time and we can’t afford that and obviously what we can afford isn’t going to be at that level and occasionally you have to take a gamble. Roman for example could end up a massive success or a dud, no real way of knowing. If he was a sure thing it’s almost certain a club with better resources would have snapped him up instead. |
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Post by stumpy on Mar 7, 2020 0:24:02 GMT
The modern full-back is different from when I played as a winger. They mainly just kicked me!! I can back you up on that Gerry. I played left-back all through my "career"; I don't recall ever playing against you, but I'm sure I would have kicked you. I kicked every winger I played against who was quicker than me  |
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Post by gerryhan on Mar 7, 2020 4:09:39 GMT
Ha ha.... I am sure you would John 😊
One particularly bad one at South Rd whilst playing for the old Hythe Town put me out for six months (and still aches on wet days!)
I finished up playing right back and really enjoying it.
Alfie is a joy to watch at left back at the moment 😊
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Post by kentjambo on Mar 7, 2020 5:39:20 GMT
The modern full-back is different from when I played as a winger. They mainly just kicked me!! I can back you up on that Gerry. I played left-back all through my "career"; I don't recall ever playing against you, but I'm sure I would have kicked you. I kicked every winger I played against who was quicker than me Left back in the Changing rooms more like😉😂 |
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