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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2020 9:05:31 GMT
McCann puts in a good shift but no end product for me 5 goals and 10 assists suggests otherwise.
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Post by gerryhan on Jan 29, 2020 9:46:53 GMT
That would work too Reddevil. I did think though that Kieron really improved and helped us to the win when he moved to midfield in the second half.
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Post by stumpy on Jan 29, 2020 11:31:54 GMT
Looking at the highlights (thanks as always Anthony), I think Callum was really unlucky to be sent off. The rule doesn't say anything about "being the last man", it's about denying a clear goalscoring opportunity, and I don't think it is one. Their bloke's touch is really heavy and looks more like a pass to the offside player than any attempt to dribble past Callum; and I don't think it's even a foul, the bloke just runs into him. As for their sending off, it's borderline, but it gave the useless ref a chance to even things up and he took it.
The other thing that stands out in the video, apart from how good Scott and Ira were in that second half, is how poorly Tim dealt with the high ball from start to finish - he's usually better than that.
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Post by fifcfan on Jan 29, 2020 11:38:46 GMT
Agree. Last man denying goal scoring opportunity yet it wasn’t a goal scoring opportunity as the Hornchurch player had already released the ball to a player in an offside position.
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Post by reddevil on Jan 29, 2020 11:49:05 GMT
McCann puts in a good shift but no end product for me 5 goals and 10 assists suggests otherwise.
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Post by reddevil on Jan 29, 2020 11:55:34 GMT
McCanns Last goal early Nov I think,pushing Alfie up might boost our attacking options
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Post by gerryhan on Jan 29, 2020 12:18:52 GMT
Agree about the sending off Stumpy. Just confirmed an abject overall performance by the Official.
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Post by realfan on Jan 29, 2020 12:56:27 GMT
How we are still talking about Alfie playing higher up the pitch is beyond me. He is by far a much better left back. As you can see with our fullbacks, you can still get forward and score goals. A lot of away games last year, Alfie was getting marked out of the game, superb at home, just went missing away. Playing left back means he’s not the defenders main priority to mark, which suits him and us as a team. In my opinion, him playing left back has been the game changer for fifc this year. Master stroke from Mr C.
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Post by gerryhan on Jan 29, 2020 14:05:12 GMT
Hard to argue against that 👍
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Post by Joel on Jan 29, 2020 14:16:08 GMT
We are probably getting the best out of Alfie right now Alfie is probably one of our most dangerous player’s and probably one of our best defenders and attackers.
Hard to argue that Alfie could easily win player of the season when it comes to it.
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Post by stumpy on Jan 29, 2020 14:46:23 GMT
We are probably getting the best out of Alfie right now Alfie is probably one of our most dangerous player’s and probably one of our best defenders and attackers. Hard to argue that Alfie could easily win player of the season when it comes to it. I don't know about "easily", Joel; there's a fair bit of competition. Ira and Scott have been superb all season and JV is having his best season for years and years. But, yes, it wouldn't surprise me if it was Alfie. As for Alfie's position, I'm sure if he could pick where he played it wouldn't be at left back. As someone reminded me last night, we signed him to replace Kieran on the left wing when we thought Kieran probably wouldn't sign last season, and Alfie ended up a left back because there was nowhere else for him to play (some "masterstroke by Mr C..."). It's hugely to Alfie's credit that he hasn't sulked about it and has made the position his own. It's ironic in a way, because Kieran doesn't want to play left side, he would much rather play central midfield as he did in the second half last night. Let's hope Cugs noticed how much better we were in the second half with four in midfield.
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Post by stumpy on Jan 29, 2020 14:54:19 GMT
Just one last thought on Callum's sending off. Can we appeal it, since the ref clearly made an error, or can you only appeal cases of serious foul play?
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Post by Joel on Jan 29, 2020 15:13:56 GMT
We are probably getting the best out of Alfie right now Alfie is probably one of our most dangerous player’s and probably one of our best defenders and attackers. Hard to argue that Alfie could easily win player of the season when it comes to it. I don't know about "easily", Joel; there's a fair bit of competition. Ira and Scott have been superb all season and JV is having his best season for years and years. But, yes, it wouldn't surprise me if it was Alfie. As for Alfie's position, I'm sure if he could pick where he played it wouldn't be at left back. As someone reminded me last night, we signed him to replace Kieran on the left wing when we thought Kieran probably wouldn't sign last season, and Alfie ended up a left back because there was nowhere else for him to play (some "masterstroke by Mr C..."). It's hugely to Alfie's credit that he hasn't sulked about it and has made the position his own. It's ironic in a way, because Kieran doesn't want to play left side, he would much rather play central midfield as he did in the second half last night. Let's hope Cugs noticed how much better we were in the second half with four in midfield. Mev sat really deep that second half and like you said it worked Roberts JV Newman Finn Alfie Mev Scott Ronnie Kieron Ira Is what we finished off with last night. Roberts JV Newman Finn (Callum) Alfie Mev Scott Ronnie Kieron Ira Jerson Could be interesting if we played something like this. I certainly would try it
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2020 15:37:37 GMT
McCanns Last goal early Nov I think,pushing Alfie up might boost our attacking options Swapping Kieron for Blanksie or Finn loses you an attacking option. Alfie’s providing something you aren’t going to see from many fullbacks in this league (JV is doing it too) and if you push him further forward you’re losing a player that attacks from the team. Neither of the other options at left back are scoring the goal he did last night or at Maldon it Merstham or probably providing the quality of delivery he did for JV on Saturday. And if it’s blanksie/Finn behind him and not Kieron or Johan in front that makes his job a lot more difficult.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2020 15:42:06 GMT
We are probably getting the best out of Alfie right now Alfie is probably one of our most dangerous player’s and probably one of our best defenders and attackers. Hard to argue that Alfie could easily win player of the season when it comes to it. I don't know about "easily", Joel; there's a fair bit of competition. Ira and Scott have been superb all season and JV is having his best season for years and years. But, yes, it wouldn't surprise me if it was Alfie. As for Alfie's position, I'm sure if he could pick where he played it wouldn't be at left back. As someone reminded me last night, we signed him to replace Kieran on the left wing when we thought Kieran probably wouldn't sign last season, and Alfie ended up a left back because there was nowhere else for him to play (some "masterstroke by Mr C..."). It's hugely to Alfie's credit that he hasn't sulked about it and has made the position his own. It's ironic in a way, because Kieran doesn't want to play left side, he would much rather play central midfield as he did in the second half last night. Let's hope Cugs noticed how much better we were in the second half with four in midfield. you can be as dismissive as you want about it being a “master stroke” but it was Finn playing there the back end of last season and he could easily have been kept there. How many other managers are throwing their forward players in at fullback and getting such results?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2020 15:44:26 GMT
That 4 in midfield was also playing for half of that second half against 10 and then 9 men and it doesn’t suit the squad we’ve got.
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Post by stumpy on Jan 29, 2020 15:59:52 GMT
That 4 in midfield was also playing for half of that second half against 10 and then 9 men and it doesn’t suit the squad we’ve got. In the half of the second half that we were playing against eleven, we looked more likely to score than we did in the whole of the first half, and a lot less likely to concede. It's all a matter of opinions, of course, but I don't see how you can assert that 4-4-2 doesn't suit the squad we've got; it depends on who plays.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2020 16:05:27 GMT
That 4 in midfield was also playing for half of that second half against 10 and then 9 men and it doesn’t suit the squad we’ve got. In the half of the second half that we were playing against eleven, we looked more likely to score than we did in the whole of the first half, and a lot less likely to concede. It's all a matter of opinions, of course, but I don't see how you can assert that 4-4-2 doesn't suit the squad we've got; it depends on who plays. well we don’t have any players that play wide in a midfield 4 if Kieron doesn’t even want to do it!
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Post by reddevil on Jan 29, 2020 16:21:27 GMT
What about a3-5-2 with matt ,Callum,Finn -JV,Scott,Mev,Ronnie, Alfie - Ira, Johann just an option or not 🤔
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2020 16:29:27 GMT
What about a3-5-2 with matt ,Callum,Finn -JV,Scott,Mev,Ronnie, Alfie - Ira, Johann just an option or not 🤔 not sure setting up in a system where we use all our centre halves and so have to change the moment we lose one is sensible.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2020 16:30:50 GMT
As it is playing 433 has us second in the league, second highest scorers and 3rd best defence.
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Post by gerryhan on Jan 29, 2020 17:20:39 GMT
Anthony, the reason we are discussing not playing three up ( a system I like normally ) is because of Jerson`s loss of form, which could be injury based. There is no obvious replacement available to us for that particular position. I thought that Ira looked like a man freed from constraint and used the channels brilliantly last night. If we are going to go two up top they will need to be mobile and use the channels as we don't have a tall target man ( and don't want to play that way anyway! ) The other speedy dangerous forward we do have is Johan. This could free him up too to use his pace and he can also finish. You mention our league position. I have to say that to me it seems like our recent performances up until the second half last night have not been that wonderful. Short of going out and signing a player I don't think we have much choice at the moment but to go two up. Who knows, it might really work! Plus we have Tyron on the bench!!
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Post by gerryhan on Jan 29, 2020 17:21:46 GMT
Tyrell!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2020 17:28:53 GMT
Anthony, the reason we are discussing not playing three up ( a system I like normally ) is because of Jerson`s loss of form, which could be injury based. There is no obvious replacement available to us for that particular position. I thought that Ira looked like a man freed from constraint and used the channels brilliantly last night. If we are going to go two up top they will need to be mobile and use the channels as we don't have a tall target man ( and don't want to play that way anyway! ) The other speedy dangerous forward we do have is Johan. This could free him up too to use his pace and he can also finish. You mention our league position. I have to say that to me it seems like our recent performances up until the second half last night have not been that wonderful. Short of going out and signing a player I don't think we have much choice at the moment but to go two up. Who knows, it might really work! Plus we have Tyron on the bench!! We haven’t got a second forward to play instead of Jerson, finding 2 of them might prove a little tricky!
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Post by jbm on Jan 29, 2020 18:13:47 GMT
I’m lost there. Are you saying Johan isn’t a striker and neither is Ira?
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Post by kentjambo on Jan 29, 2020 18:35:44 GMT
I'm just wondering if we could be top of the league or just a lowly 2nd as we are now if one or two of you were managers instead of Cugs? I'm still enjoying the moment from last night, so well done players and management team. Onwards to East Thurrock!! SEA SEA SEASIDERS!
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Post by thebishop on Jan 29, 2020 18:37:31 GMT
Gerry....Tyron ? Tyrell? I think you’ll find Tyler is nearer the mark.🤔
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Post by gerryhan on Jan 29, 2020 18:39:02 GMT
If we are to rest Jerson.... looks to me he is carrying a groin... we do not have a central attacker to replace him Anthony. So why not go two up. We looked comfortable defensively with it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2020 18:45:32 GMT
I’m lost there. Are you saying Johan isn’t a striker and neither is Ira? no, I don’t think either of them are centre forwards. But given that’s a view shared by the supposedly useless manager I’m probably wrong. So we could keep pining for them to be played in such a role or just get on with it and enjoy what’s in front of us, because this constant stream of negativity is draining.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2020 18:48:46 GMT
If we are to rest Jerson.... looks to me he is carrying a groin... we do not have a central attacker to replace him Anthony. So why not go two up. We looked comfortable defensively with it. the defence isn’t an issue thought Gerry, its the third best defence in the league. The only way the system changes is if Jerson gets injured and there’s nobody else to play. As I just posted: people can tie themselves up in knots being critical about every little thing or just what’s been a great ride the past few years.
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