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Post by fifcfan on Dec 26, 2023 16:28:44 GMT
Surely enough is enough. Never ever left a game early even in some of the darkest days but enough. We was crying out for an experienced manager. Biggest squad in history to a point we have Ira and Goodman left out, both of these can’t be cheap. Have we stopped speaking to the press? I can’t remember seeing an interview/update from Drury on Kent online for weeks now. I was critical of Cugley at times but &&&& me the saying goes don’t know what you got till it’s gone. Forever revolving door of players, poor football and never felt so disconnected with this team/club.
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Post by glostervic on Dec 26, 2023 16:59:13 GMT
A few days ago from media team: ‘What a day we have in store at the Dugout. 2 huge premier league matches, live music, and PPV boxing. What more could you want?’ That now seems to be the focus of attention. No Xmas greetings from Chairman. No Christmas message from manager. No update on player injuries/availability for weeks on end. Is this now a bar/ restaurant with the odd football match going on occasionally or a football club serious about progression? Answers on a postcard………
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Post by plymouthseasider on Dec 26, 2023 17:00:47 GMT
If the knee jerk managerial appointment and this total and utter mess isn't corrected before the end of January then we'll be atleast six points adrift of safety. But let's not dwell on things, let's celebrate the commercial achievement of signing up a few dart and pool teams up to the Dugout. Is the football just a sideshow now?
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Post by rdg on Dec 26, 2023 17:08:24 GMT
Fans forum event on January 8 could be interesting
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Post by stumpy on Dec 26, 2023 17:25:28 GMT
Fans forum event on January 8 could be interesting If the apparent apathy on the pitch spreads to the supporters, and it felt like it was today, then nobody will bother to turn up.
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Post by Dodger on Dec 26, 2023 17:29:10 GMT
Once upon a time, not so long ago, it was entertaining and enjoyable to attend an Invicta game, it has this season become boring and depressing, the performance today was appalling.
Like several others who have already commented I left early for the first time ever, it is going to be a struggle to work up the enthusiasm for the next game on Saturday
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Post by tigger on Dec 26, 2023 17:32:26 GMT
Surely now fans are wondering why Josh Healey was appointed as our Chairman when his only interest is in commercial interests and not in football. I’m already fed up of all the advertisements for the Dugout . What about the football ?
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Post by benyoung1981 on Dec 26, 2023 17:34:21 GMT
Totally agree about The Dugout. Nice venue but should not be at the expense of the events on the pitch and ensuring they are properly covered. On the playing side, Drury has to go. Not good enough since he has come in and the revolving player door is a joke. We are in serious trouble. Absolutely pathetic performance today.
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Post by sjfagg on Dec 26, 2023 17:46:36 GMT
I don’t normally post on here but I am a Folkestone (in all its different incarnations) football supporter for over 40 years. And, this post may upset the people that really didn’t/don’t like Cugley.
The constant moaning about Cugley really used to annoy me. I never posted anything but I knew we would find it very difficult to eventually replace someone who gave everything to the club. He managed to find good players who, at first, wanted to play for him and then ended up loving and wanting to stay and play for the club. And, he also always had us ‘punching above our weight’.
Well, Cugley going seems to have started a gradually increasing decline of our team. I always thought Mev could eventually be a good replacement - Folkestone through and through, but it ended up being too big a job. And, when Drury was appointed I was worried this was the wrong choice and, I look at the team sheet and I say ‘who?’ - the players will not be long term or be playing for the love of the club.
We need a good appointment, with good connections and a pedigree that means players want to play for him and the club. Don’t ask me who that is, I don’t know.
Well, after ‘biting my lip’ for a long time, I’ve had my say.
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Post by invictasaint on Dec 26, 2023 18:17:42 GMT
My biggest fear is the word used in the opening post…disconnected. As soon as fans, volunteers, even players feel this, we are in deep do do.
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Post by Ads on Dec 26, 2023 20:51:30 GMT
That was embarrassing, cancelled our plans to go to Margate today
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Post by glostervic on Dec 26, 2023 21:02:54 GMT
That was embarrassing, cancelled our plans to go to Margate today When fervent supporters begin to change their travelling plans for matches the situation becomes really worrying. As others have said there is a disconnect now between fans and the club officials and management Not sure how this is going to be fixed short term, but if it unravels any further then relegation will become a possibility. How will the board react if this happens? What happens to the directors loans? Instead of looking forward to 2024 there is now a feeling of depression and uncertainty.
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Post by bandman on Dec 26, 2023 21:22:40 GMT
I don’t normally post on here but I am a Folkestone (in all its different incarnations) football supporter for over 40 years. And, this post may upset the people that really didn’t/don’t like Cugley. The constant moaning about Cugley really used to annoy me. I never posted anything but I knew we would find it very difficult to eventually replace someone who gave everything to the club. He managed to find good players who, at first, wanted to play for him and then ended up loving and wanting to stay and play for the club. And, he also always had us ‘punching above our weight’. Well, Cugley going seems to have started a gradually increasing decline of our team. I always thought Mev could eventually be a good replacement - Folkestone through and through, but it ended up being too big a job. And, when Drury was appointed I was worried this was the wrong choice and, I look at the team sheet and I say ‘who?’ - the players will not be long term or be playing for the love of the club. We need a good appointment, with good connections and a pedigree that means players want to play for him and the club. Don’t ask me who that is, I don’t know. Well, after ‘biting my lip’ for a long time, I’ve had my say. Well said my son couldn’t have put it better myself, some people have now got what they wished for, wholesale changes particularly on the playing side, the club has always thrived on the addition of Young players coming through the youth set up they’re still some who could make the grade so they should be given a chance, this was happening under the previous regime. The players signed recently are no improvement on the team of last season begs the question why were they available mid season? Hoping to be proved wrong but my glass is below half empty much like our position in the league.
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Post by paulh on Dec 26, 2023 21:49:17 GMT
Are the debts now being spoken about due to Director loans to pay for the upgrade to the bar? Do ALL profits from the bar ie food and drink go directly to the football club?
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Post by rdg on Dec 27, 2023 0:27:32 GMT
Are the debts now being spoken about due to Director loans to pay for the upgrade to the bar? Do ALL profits from the bar ie food and drink go directly to the football club? This is the vital question. The Dugout does look great and it's good that there's a revenue stream that's open seven days a week. But where does the profit go? Hopefully to the club, not to the pockets of the 'investors'
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Post by kentjambo on Dec 28, 2023 9:13:52 GMT
With regards to the dugout and profits has anyone noticed the number of new signings? Perhaps they were free and don't get paid? I personally love the fact that a few have put some money into the club, the refurbishments are great...its the squad/manager who are currently letting us down as clearly stated by Andy Drury in his interview.
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Post by kentjambo on Dec 29, 2023 10:15:24 GMT
To the pleasure of many on here Neil left and now the gun sights are turning to the new board. I guess the few on here want them gone too? As said earlier in this thread be careful what you wish for...
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Post by Dena on Dec 30, 2023 19:37:53 GMT
Surely now fans are wondering why Josh Healey was appointed as our Chairman when his only interest is in commercial interests and not in football. I’m already fed up of all the advertisements for the Dugout . What about the football ? I have a recorded meeting raising these concerns back in August, and I have emails making the intentions very clear from the new board before they were “appointed”. I am watching from beyond the sidelines now and feel the pain of how lost the FIFC family is now.
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Post by fan on Dec 30, 2023 20:00:54 GMT
With regards to the dugout and profits has anyone noticed the number of new signings? Perhaps they were free and don't get paid? I personally love the fact that a few have put some money into the club, the refurbishments are great...its the squad/manager who are currently letting us down as clearly stated by Andy Drury in his interview. Agree with your post "kentjambo". Club needs to sustain itself in future years and off the field commercial activities will help greatly towards this. JH and the new board are supporting the playing budget to levels never seen before. I would argue though that JH, board and the supporters are currently not getting value for money at the present time - a managerial change was unfortunately required and the changing of Manager was by no means an error by the Board, however in my opinion the replacement Managerial choice perhaps was, happy to be proved wrong though!
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Post by finbarr_in_z on Jan 3, 2024 12:43:38 GMT
Interesting comments about the board. It's 5 months since the transition to the new board, so maybe due a 'half year review' of what their goals were when they arrived folkestoneinvictafc.co.uk/2023/07/club-statement-2/Salient points: - "The aim is to secure the long-term financial future of Folkestone Invicta at its Cheriton Road ground for the benefit of the local community." Investment made in Dugout. It seems popular so assume it is serving the local community. Investment has accrued debt - that's how business works - so a wait & see on 'securing the long-term financial future.' This goal work in progress. - "We’re confident fans will see positive changes on and off the field." On the field, er, um. That's the vagaries of football. Nothing guaranteed. Off the field - Dugout & other outlets around the ground. Dugout food replacing Just The Ticket has had a mixed reaction. - "We’re fully behind joint-head coaches Michael Everitt and Roland Edge and their efforts to strengthen the squad – work which is already under way with some exciting new signings" Signings came in. It didn't work. Mev & Edgy fired. Again, that's football. So were definitely behind the coaches until untenable. - “We have a 5 to 10-year plan for the club and will build an even more engaged and passionate community around it. A key part of that will be making it a place to not only watch great local football, but also to enjoy memorable family events in the new Dug Out sports bar" 5 months in to the long term plans, so early doors. Work In Progress (WIP) Engaged? Dugout does that, but needs more 'family events'?. Awaiting other initiatives (if there are any). Passionate? Recent on pitch results have certainly raised passions. Great local football? Let's see. - “We want to work in partnership with the fans, council, sponsors, residents and the whole football family of Folkestone, and we are committed to putting the club at the heart of the local community.” Partnerships with fans?: on-site fans forums hopefully will do that. One down, many to go. Council?: A bit quiet on this one but possibly has to be confidential initially. Sponsors?: As per "Council?"? Residents?: not too many residential areas right next to the club. Again, Dugout a new bar for the area, which doesn't have too many bars (odd for the UK). Football family?: Not sure what this is - could mean different things to many. - "In the coming seasons, the consortium’s plan is to transform the club and introduce new training facilities, including a 3G pitch." Key words = 'coming seasons', so in it for the long term. These are expensive things, so might need investment payback before we see any of this. - “There’s already a strong desire to win within the club. Josh has now brought in a team of food, beverage and event people, led by Charlie Wilson as Director of Operations, and will create a place that appeals to the current fans, and the wider Folkestone community." Covered by all of the above. So a conclusion or summary is that the board has done what it said it would so far (Dugout - which seems to be working) & where it has gone wrong (the football) they have done something about it. Maybe a revisit of the promises / goals in July 2024 for the 1-year review. Thoughts?
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Post by thelawman on Jan 3, 2024 14:17:38 GMT
When will that be then after 10 months..🤷
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