Mev and Edgy

[tigger]

Having just listened to what Edgy said post match after the Carshalton game I am left totally confused as to what is going on with the team .
I have complete faith in our two coaches . They’re both always honest in their interpretation of the game and if it’s bad they’ll tell us .
But something is seriously wrong if they are telling the players one thing and then the players are going on the pitch and doing as they please .
Results are not going our way and changes need to happen.

[JimRuoff]

If that's the case then unfortunately it shows a lack of respect from the players towards the coaches.

[stumpy]

Isn't that the definition of "losing the dressing room"?

It's too late to change anything on the footballing side this season, other than tactically; but, now that the Dug Out is finished, if the new board are serious about progress on the footballing side, then the first thing they need to do is appoint a manager with a proven track record in non-league football, not two blokes (both of whom I have a lot of time for and who have given a lot to the club) who have never managed a team before and who were appointed (I nearly wrote "annointed") by Cugs mainly because they were his mates and it was the easiest option.

I feel sorry for them, because they were faced with a really difficult job of rebuilding a side that had been settled, but the bottom line is that they appear to have failed - right now it's a shambles and it looks like we will need to rebuild again next season, probably in the South-East division the way things are going.

Sorry about the misery, but I'm totally fed up, depressed almost, with what is happening where it matters - on the pitch.

[finbarr_in_z]

Depends on how much sway the new members of the board have. Is it absolute, or does the old guard still rule the roost?

To those of us FIFC through & through, you wouldn't want to wish anything bad on Edgy & Mev, but if you're new to the club (the new board members) then it's just 2 under-performing staff members.

[stumpy]

Nov 5, 2023 23:18:29 GMT finbarr_in_z said:

Depends on how much sway the new members of the board have. Is it absolute, or does the old guard still rule the roost?

Fair question. I think that so far the money men have left the footballing side of things in the hands of Cugs/Edgy/Mev. Whether they will continue to do so if we continue to go backwards. who knows? I don't expect any changes before the end of this season.

[colash]

We are 4 pts of a relegation spot. If get that low it’s going to be hard getting us out.

[laguna]

Unfortunately the club is going nowhere football wise with the present team management. An experienced manager is not just an option it is an absolute necessity, and preferably one with his own team of coaches. If something is not done I can see a lot of fans taking the sit at home option. A club like Invicta would , I would think , would surely attract a lot of interest in the Non League world and I would ask the new owners to look at and consider the views of the supporters.( that would probably be a first)

[Ads]

folkestoneinvictafc.co.uk/2023/11/club-statement-4/
I guess all we can do is get behind the boys on Saturday and cheers them on 🧡🖤

[damo]

Maybe The Directors of Folkestone Invicta are reading our forum and comments let's hope so,Full respect to Mev/Edgy taking on the job i have said before i would of preferred one of them as manager, I guess we will see them until the end of season and look at it then.Lets try and support them until then i think there keep us safe until then finger crossed.

[stumpy]

Nov 7, 2023 10:39:21 GMT Ads said:

I guess all we can do is get behind the boys on Saturday and cheers them on 🧡🖤

That's all we can do and, to be fair, I think we largely have, but it's painful. I can honestly say that I haven't enjoyed a single game I've seen this season, not even the one we actually won against Cheshunt. I enjoy the banter (a lot of it gallows humour at the moment) and we do somehow stay cheerful most of the time (beer helps), but at the end of every game I mooch off home dejected; I can't remember it being this bad.

The statement does at least, between the lines, show that the board are aware of the growing supporter discontent and talks about a focus on the playing side of things. Let's hope so. But nothing is going to happen overnight and, for this season, it's all about staying up, which we won't do if we don't improve. Let's hope we do, because relegation would be a disaster.

[ohiwish]

Mev and Edge have inherited a managerial legacy that has no framework, no focus, no methodology, no coherence, no order, no training etc etc. They are labouring under the tyranny of structurelessness. This is deeply embedded and utterly institutionalised within FIFC and Mev and Edge, in their role as coaches, are partly a product of this laissez faire approach. Until a manager is given a remit to set out their own vision, produce a proactive rather than a reactive response and establish a non negotiable set of principles and values we will continue to see the current chaos in recruitment and the resulting mess on the pitch.

[invictasaint]

Blimey, don’t ya just hate fence- sitters!

[kentjambo]

Rumours abound that Hessenthaler is coming.

[kentjambo]

The horsemen have encircled Mev and Edgy baying for blood, all hail the forum...Hess to the rescue.

[stumpy]

Nov 7, 2023 17:29:00 GMT kentjambo said:

Rumours abound that Hessenthaler is coming.

Is that because you've just started one?

[philj]

Nov 6, 2023 17:54:15 GMT laguna said:

Unfortunately the club is going nowhere football wise with the present team management. An experienced manager is not just an option it is an absolute necessity, and preferably one with his own team of coaches. If something is not done I can see a lot of fans taking the sit at home option. A club like Invicta would , I would think , would surely attract a lot of interest in the Non League world and I would ask the new owners to look at and consider the views of the supporters.( that would probably be a first)

[gerryhan]

Owiwish makes some very good insights above.IMO.

[philj]

I agree Laguna.
You mention the new "owners" which of course they are not. The current Directors hold precious few shares between them. They were appointed back in the summer by the one remaining director to operate the club on behalf of all the shareholders who, of course, are the owners of the football club.

[gerryhan]

Young progressive manager (ex football league)looking for his first step into management would suit!

[gazza41]

Nov 7, 2023 18:01:48 GMT gerryhan said:

Young progressive manager (ex football league)looking for his first step into management would suit!

Lloyd Blackman ? Number 2 to Jay Saunders. Worth a punt ?

[gerryhan]

Football League??

[finbarr_in_z]

Nov 7, 2023 17:50:40 GMT philj said:

They were appointed back in the summer by the one remaining director to operate the club on behalf of all the shareholders who, of course, are the owners of the football club.

That's the theory.

As a holder of several £k of shares in the club I've had zero communication from them.
To be fair that's the same level of communication as the previous regime.

[gerryhan]

I would like to know exactly what influence a shareholder in a football club at our level can bring to best on its management structure?

[gerryhan]

Bear

[finbarr_in_z]

Nov 7, 2023 23:14:29 GMT gerryhan said:

I would like to know exactly what influence a shareholder in a football club at our level can bring to best on its management structure?

2 majority shareholders have effectively been booted out of the club in the past (& still own those shares) so you could consider "no affect".

However those still involved should hold the club / company accountable. That's how business works.