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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2022 18:36:10 GMT
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Post by Snafu2023 on Jan 14, 2022 18:57:13 GMT
Well, no surprise really…such a shame as I’m sure we didn’t get the full benefits of Finn this season.
Good luck Finn with your move to Hastings and thank you for the past four years.
Hopefully our paths will cross again.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2022 19:02:24 GMT
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Post by Snafu2023 on Jan 14, 2022 19:27:35 GMT
So plenty of encouragement from the manager and players mixed with a big handful of appreciation and guidance you uncover a beast of player that we knew was there. Regular playing has turned him into an agile and lean utility man. Looking a lot filter and knocking goals in too. www.hastingsunited.com/news/2022/01/14/finn-ally-a-u/
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Post by reddevil on Jan 14, 2022 20:57:09 GMT
A loyal,enthusiastic lad and a good player .poorly treated over the 4 years never given the chance to establish himself as a regular. Our loss is Hastings gain unfortunately IMO
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2022 22:29:40 GMT
Originally used in many positions. Never really managed to nail down any of them, despite being good across the back line, probably not so much in midfield. Showed that ultimately his best position is centre half during the time when Matt Newman had his knee injury and he had a consistent run of games but when he wasn’t playing regularly he struggled to find those same levels, and even at his best he wasn’t better than either Newman or Callum unfortunately. Hopefully the drop down will allow him to flourish, but there is a huge gap between that level and the one expected at Invicta these days.
Odd to see so many disappointed that he has left and bemoaning his treatment (he was sat on the bench, not chained to a radiator) given how often I heard grumbling that he wasn’t up to it when he was playing. I guess time will tell. But ultimately the club has made money selling a player that wasn’t good enough to get into the first XI. That’s good business in my book.
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Post by biffo on Jan 15, 2022 10:52:29 GMT
What a disgraceful post from Obertan . I thought we had been promised no more posts from this ill-informed management supporting source. Finn O’Mara was a good loyal player who was badly handled by management and still has the potential to have done a good sound job for us. For some reason he fell from the manager’s clique of favourites but continued to sit on the bench awaiting the nominal last 5 minute run-outs. Is it any wonder he did not fulfil his full potential? To denigrate a player loudly expressing the view that he lacks the class for Invicta is not only disrespectful but again demonstrates your ignorance.No doubt this will again spark off the usual “all I do for the club” routine but I for one think this running a bit thin.
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Post by Joel on Jan 15, 2022 11:42:56 GMT
What a disgraceful post from Obertan . I thought we had been promised no more posts from this ill-informed management supporting source. Finn O’Mara was a good loyal player who was badly handled by management and still has the potential to have done a good sound job for us. For some reason he fell from the manager’s clique of favourites but continued to sit on the bench awaiting the nominal last 5 minute run-outs. Is it any wonder he did not fulfil his full potential? To denigrate a player loudly expressing the view that he lacks the class for Invicta is not only disrespectful but again demonstrates your ignorance.No doubt this will again spark off the usual “all I do for the club” routine but I for one think this running a bit thin. Well the 'Ill-Informed Management Supporting Source' has a good point, This season Finn wasn't up to the standard this season he just didn't seem to kick on this season and many supporters on the terrace and on this forum when he was playing would agree with that, he's definitely found his standard and his level and I wish him the best of luck, I hardly find Obertan's post disgraceful nor do I find it Ignorant, once again someone has an opinion on this forum and it gets attacked or put down just because someone has a certain position in the club doesn't mean there opinions should be treated in any different to those who don't.
Once again (like many others have said on this forum) thank you 'Obertan' for all the work you do at the club on the media side and much more.
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Post by Joel on Jan 15, 2022 11:49:30 GMT
Also my name is displayed on this forum so if anyone would like to take this further they can find me behind the goal, usually holding the noisy black dog. (Also can't miss the red hair )
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Post by kentjambo on Jan 15, 2022 12:13:15 GMT
I would love to comment but unfortunately due to the recent restrictions on whether inviduals comments are worthy I have not supported the club for long enough or played at a standard where my opinion counts😉 and Joel I am coming for you🤣
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Post by sandgateboy on Jan 15, 2022 12:51:09 GMT
I only have a little ginger dog that don't bark so I don't dare comment 😀
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Post by biffo on Jan 15, 2022 13:15:49 GMT
Joel. Two points . Whether or not you appreciate the qualities of a player it is unkind and disrespectful to post denigrating remarks when they decide to leave. If you can’t say anything good then you are better shutting up in those circumstances. Secondly I like you occupy territory behind the goal in the first half and migrate to the open terrace at half- time. In the circumstances it is difficult to assess the players performance in the traditional 5 minute spot when it is largely at the far end of the pitch. Our squad is paper thin already and without proper rotation further defections will undoubtedly occur. Anyway let’s keep everything crossed for today.
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Post by seaseaseasider on Jan 15, 2022 13:30:53 GMT
I think most fans will agree that our best 2 CB's are Matt and Callum so Finn wouldn't make the first XI. However what I found strange was earlier in the season when we had some injuries in defence and RJ was put back there instead of Finn. This made us light in midfield with Draycott coming in for RJ. Finn slotting into defence would've made more sense but was just left on the bench. Maybe there was a fitness issue but this wasn't made known.
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Post by invictasaint on Jan 15, 2022 13:41:59 GMT
Im a dyslexic atheist so Im not even sure the dog exists.
Top bloke with lovely folks Finn, as we saw when the ground came up to meet Cousin Dave at Chestnut, shame it didn't work out here. Good luck at HUFC.
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Post by gerryhan on Jan 15, 2022 14:17:25 GMT
Totally agree with that Invictasaint.
Obviously, lack of playing time here was not good for his confidence and subsequently his game. But he has had some terrific games for us so the potential IS there. Delighted for him and his lovely parents that he has found a seemingly happy home at Hastings Utd.
To publically air a negative personal opinion on the lad's ability, on what is meant to be a FANS Forum is beyond bad taste. I just hope he doesn't read our Forum. I repeat, Fans Forum!
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Post by Joel on Jan 15, 2022 14:45:47 GMT
Totally agree with that Invictasaint. Obviously, lack of playing time here was not good for his confidence and subsequently his game. But he has had some terrific games for us so the potential IS there. Delighted for him and his lovely parents that he has found a seemingly happy home at Hastings Utd. To publically air a negative personal opinion on the lad's ability, on what is meant to be a FANS Forum is beyond bad taste. I just hope he doesn't read our Forum. I repeat, Fans Forum! [bw We are all entitled to our opinions negative or not as you said it’s a fan’s forum and may I quote an OPEN fan’s forum, ‘Obertan’ has said before and will probably happily say again Finn is a good player but he’s found his level at Hastings and seems much happier and hopefully he succeeds. Never knew we wasn’t allowed to have negative or positive opinions on an open ‘fans’ forum.
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Post by Ads on Jan 15, 2022 14:49:19 GMT
Have to agree with all Anthony’s comments , but what do I know lol 😀🍺
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Post by kentjambo on Jan 15, 2022 14:51:09 GMT
FANS forum? If only IT was...only for the just and deserving....of which I am clearly NOT
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Post by finbarr_in_z on Jan 15, 2022 15:24:22 GMT
Also my name is displayed on this forum so if anyone would like to take this further they can find me behind the goal, usually holding the noisy black dog. How big is the dog? And does it bite? This may influence any approach for a chat....
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Post by Joel on Jan 15, 2022 16:13:30 GMT
Also my name is displayed on this forum so if anyone would like to take this further they can find me behind the goal, usually holding the noisy black dog. How big is the dog? And does it bite? This may influence any approach for a chat.... I can and I quote, say that she is lovely and it was just a slight subtle dig Always willing to take people's opinions (Depends on how long they've been supporting the club though )
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Post by stumpy on Jan 15, 2022 17:04:00 GMT
Oh no. here we go again. About 3 months ago, Anthony, you declared your intention not to use this forum again. This was a reaction to a conversation between me and another supporter, that you heard second hand, that wasn't entirely complimentary where you were concerned. It wasn't entirely uncomplimentary either - I've always, along with everyone else, recognised what a great job you do on the social media front and how important that is to the club, not least in driving up crowds. You probably weren't told that bit. What you probably were told is what was said regarding your contributions to the forum and your apparent role as self-appointed spokesman for the manager, although I somehow doubt that he would say (or necessarily even think) some of the things that you have written. Your "resignation" was followed by a storm in a teacup where, amongst other things, this forum was accused of being "toxic". I was surprised (not to mention amused), because I thought (and still do) that it has been a very positive place this season. as befits the way things have been going. When I asked the person who had made that comment for an example of "toxicity" they declined to give me one. Wonder why? Actually, there was one "toxic" post; that was your slagging off of Tyler Sterling after a few people had the temerity to suggest that he was a loss to the squad and should have been given a chance to build on his pre-season showing - that was toxic enough to piss the chairman off and prompt him to post saying so. There seems to be a bit of a pattern here; Johan was useless (according to you) and a good riddance; and now we have the same thing again with Finn. The truth is that he hasn't played well on the rare occasions he has been on the pitch for us this season, but it's also true that, as tends to be the case at Invicta, having fallen out of favour, he hasn't been given much of a chance to get back in it - vicious circle. So, all of a sudden, despite having played in League 1, he's not good enough for the level we're playing at according to you - in which case, he'd better pull his socks up, because, if he's still at Hastings, he's going to be back at this level next season. As an aside, I don't remember you once criticising Jerson even though, after a bright start, he was an absolute liability. But then Cugs continued to pick him, so how could he not be good? Incidentally, he's at Haywards Heath this season, so obviously never was good enough for our elevated level after all. Perhaps it's a generational thing. Some of us have been following Invicta for more than three or four years and can't help wishing the best for the players, whether they are still part of the team or not. I actually think it's good to have differing opinions on the forum, but there are ways of disagreeing. If you're going to revel in being "Mr Obnoxious", then people are bound to come back. I suppose it adds to the entertainment
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Post by stumpy on Jan 15, 2022 17:16:30 GMT
I only have a little ginger dog that don't bark so I don't dare comment 😀 I've got some of those in my back garden sometimes - they're called foxes.
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Post by stumpy on Jan 15, 2022 17:24:34 GMT
‘Obertan’ has said before and will probably happily say again Finn is a good player but he’s found his level at Hastings and seems much happier and hopefully he succeeds. I wouldn't be at all suprised if Anthony has said that before, and might say it again - but it's not what he has written, is it? So did he write that just to cheese some people off and start an argument (in which case, he must be happy)? Will the real Obertan please stand up
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Post by gerryhan on Jan 15, 2022 20:19:38 GMT
Yes, Joel, this is a Fans Forum.
I like to hear what the fans, all fans, have to say. I do not need the management view reiterated aggressively on here, by its apparent spokesperson.
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Post by Joel on Jan 15, 2022 22:21:04 GMT
Yes, Joel, this is a Fans Forum. I like to hear what the fans, all fans, have to say. I do not need the management view reiterated aggressively on here, by its apparent spokesperson. If Anthony wants to come on the forum and be a ‘spokesperson’ then he has a right to because we are all open to opinions, I dont see it as aggressive though I can see why it may come across that way. Anthony can speak for him self on it (no doubt he will), but we are slowly driving off topic. Finn since he joined was loyal and passionate and showed glimpses of class but it’s unfortunate how it ended. I’m sure he will succeed at Hastings, we all have different opinions and sometimes are best kept to ourselves.
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Post by kentjambo on Jan 16, 2022 9:34:46 GMT
Nice to see the toxic forum gang getting back together...bollockchops will be in again next. Gerry being the exception but I note with interest that when we win the threads are not full of 'well done' 'great team' but when we lose or draw the multitude of 'Cugley out' 'usual crap line up/formation'. Think on chaps.
Anyway, good luck to Finn treated fairly or not was loyal and proffesional throughout his Invicta career.
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Post by glostervic on Jan 16, 2022 11:22:03 GMT
Nice to see the toxic forum gang getting back together...bollockchops will be in again next. Gerry being the exception but I note with interest that when we win the threads are not full of 'well done' 'great team' but when we lose or draw the multitude of 'Cugley out' 'usual crap line up/formation'. Think on chaps. /quote] Not sure about the forum gang getting back together jambo Mostly folk wishing Finn good luck at Hastings United and thanking him for his efforts at Cheriton Road. No doubt we will be seeing him back here soon enough. What I do find surprising is there have been 948 views on this thread and 886 views on the Wrexham game, the biggest match in club’s history (at the time of posting). Limited acknowledgement of the guys efforts against a very quick and skilful team. They all put in a shift after long journey north. Of course the marvellous Trophy run has boosted the club funds immensely and let’s hope some of this can be used wisely.
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Post by reddevil on Jan 17, 2022 14:13:59 GMT
Flinn played well against Whitstable on Saturday, looks fit and sharp .Plays same position every game and trains twice a week ,if no game on Tuesday. Tom and Maggie wish Gerry and all the friends they made at Invicta a happy new year .Does anyone want a well worn Invicta cushion ?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2022 17:49:14 GMT
All I can say is: wow.
Either I haven’t managed to say what I was trying to say or it seems that people’s misconceived ideas about me have caused them to read what they wanted to read from my post. Either way I’ll post again and try to be more clear.
I like Finn. He’s a great lad and you won’t find anybody at the club who says otherwise. He’s also a good defender, which I thought I’d made clear in my post above. He came to the club as a utility player and has played across the back line, in midfield and even up top very briefly and I think he leaves the club now knowing that his calling as as a centre half, his performances last season in the absence of Matt Newman showed us that. He is a centre half very capable of playing in this league, he’d get into almost any team as a centre half and a good number as a full back as well, but unfortunately for Finn we have two very good central defenders in Newman and Davies and he doesn’t get j to the team ahead of them. He needs to go and play games, regular games. and I’ve no doubt Hastings will allow him to fulfil his potential. I think he struggled when in an out of the side but you can’t play him regularly ahead of better players just because he needs them to maintain his standards. I’m also happier that he’s gone to a club that’s on the up and is winning football matches, I’m sure he’ll enjoy it much more than playing in front of a few hundred at a mid table side in our division.
For what it is worth I was very much of the opinion that he should have been used earlier in the season when we had injuries to our back 3 and RJ was moved back. I don’t think Potters Bar get a grip of that game in the same way if RJ is still in midfield, for example. However I do speak to the manager and even if I disagree I can see why he chose the team he did and I certainly didn’t see the need to cry on here about that or any other decision he makes that I disagree with. I don’t think that’s helpful and ultimately I’m aware that my opinion means **** all in the grand scheme of things. The manager and coaching team know more than I or anybody on here will ever know, so even if I disagree I listen to what they have to say about it. And if I ever voice an opinion they’ll either agree or tell me why I’m wrong. Whether that then influences my opinion on the matter or not I don’t feel the need to post about it, and if that makes me an “ill informed manager supporter” or the “self appointed manager’s spokesman” then so be it.
And regardless of anything else: the club has got “good” money for a player who wasn’t in the managers plans. Hopefully that means others can be brought in, although that isn’t an easy task.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2022 17:50:58 GMT
No doubt this will again spark off the usual “all I do for the club” routine but I for one think this running a bit thin. I would like to know where I have ever used this routine?
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