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Post by finbarr_in_z on Feb 25, 2020 20:01:14 GMT
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Post by finbarr_in_z on Feb 25, 2020 20:01:51 GMT
Respect to anyone who's gone. A cold night.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2020 20:29:38 GMT
2-0 even colder now !
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Post by finbarr_in_z on Feb 25, 2020 20:44:18 GMT
HT 2-0
2nd was a penalty
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Post by finbarr_in_z on Feb 25, 2020 20:59:21 GMT
Ooof 3-0
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Post by finbarr_in_z on Feb 25, 2020 21:22:30 GMT
4-0 64 mins
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Post by finbarr_in_z on Feb 25, 2020 21:41:20 GMT
FT 4-0 Oh well, concentrate on the league. Hope no injuries picked up.
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Post by Joel on Feb 25, 2020 21:46:05 GMT
No Injuries only a slight knock to Tyler.
Under 18’s won 4-0 this evening.
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Post by Joel on Feb 25, 2020 21:51:47 GMT
We lost to a very good Dartford Side who came alive after we had them on the back foot first 20.
A much more physical side then we are and two blanksie mistakes cost us two goals.
Disappointing but one less cup to think about!
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Post by finbarr_in_z on Feb 25, 2020 22:39:09 GMT
Seems a similar summing up form Darts fans www.puredfc.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=500&start=20Bloody cold but an enjoyable game made up for it. First ten to fifteen minutes Folkestone played well and had a good chance to take the lead but once we got going we played some very good football and ran out comfortable winners. First and fourth goals were really good and some very important minutes for a lot of the lads. We have a strong squad and competition for places in all positions, well done SK and the players.
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Post by gerryhan on Feb 26, 2020 0:07:42 GMT
Despite a really promising start from the lads in the first twenty or so, when we could/should have been 1-0 up,( Ira, one on one and choosing to try and lob their six foot three keeper from fifteen yards) Totally wrong option could have powered it either side of that tall keeper. The makeshift nature of our team tonight started to become apparent once they started to take control after their first goal. Lack of understanding between Henry and the back four was obvious ( understandably ), it cost us the first two goals. Their second, came when Henry was second to a high ball and clattered their center forward, a debatable penalty for me. 2-0 game over really. Our starting front three of Alfie, Tyler, and Ira lacked any kind of physicality against a no-nonsense semi-pro back four. (I have to eat my words here and say that we looked better when Jerson came on!) Ira had as poor a game as I have seen him have for us. Easily knocked off the ball and far too selfish in possession. I was much more impressed with young Tyler, once he got used to being battered a bit. Welcome to proper semi-pro football!! . But he got on with it and by the second half, he looked our best hope to me. Heardie put a real shift in and in that first twenty looked as good as anything of theirs. The absence of Ronnie, Kieron and Sam Hasler was so obvious tonight, these are quality players whom we need to include in the side to pose any kind of threat. Mev was missed at center half with his organizational ability and should play there in my opinion. Our back four for the Worthing game was terrific. So, by the end, by which time they had more or less their first side out, the gulf in leagues had become apparent. But we can be much better with a team that includes our best players!!
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Post by xjr on Feb 26, 2020 7:31:39 GMT
It was certainly a baptism of fire, that's the standard the team has to aspire to. Lack of physical presence can be mitigated slightly with the right play, which we don't do. All kept going to their credit. Unfortunately the occasion brings out the worst in Ira, so eager to impress at that level, his game goes to pot trying to do too much and making wrong decisions. Was a useful indicator of what the team needs to do. Play to our strengths and not the opponents, be sharper and fitter. No criticism for the loss though, it was a big ask.
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Post by thebishop on Feb 26, 2020 8:10:20 GMT
Hit the nail on the there xjr.Couple of defensive errors were duly punished.Ira missed up with two one on ones with the keeper,a lob went over the bar when he had plenty of time early in first half and early second half he lashed it over .Their fitness showed and a solid no 5 and 6 made it had work
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Post by Joel on Feb 26, 2020 8:48:05 GMT
Last night showed which players are capable of competing at that level.
Tyler and Ira were excellent for the first twenty but as Neil has just said in a Kent Online Article he’s relying on Ira to score goals.
Dartford have been competing at the high end of the National South for a few years now so it was always going to be a tough task.
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Post by xjr on Feb 26, 2020 8:53:39 GMT
Last night showed which players are capable of competing at that level. Tyler and Ira were excellent for the first twenty but as Neil has just said in a Kent Online Article he’s relying on Ira to score goals. Dartford have been competing at the high end of the National South for a few years now so it was always going to be a tough task. There are a few that have the technical ability to play at that level, but the team has to play to their strengths and not just bundle it forward to see what happens.
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Post by xjr on Feb 26, 2020 9:01:09 GMT
Last night showed which players are capable of competing at that level. Tyler and Ira were excellent for the first twenty but as Neil has just said in a Kent Online Article he’s relying on Ira to score goals. Dartford have been competing at the high end of the National South for a few years now so it was always going to be a tough task. I don't think that article is fair, Jo has not had the minutes on the pitch to be comparable, you may find that his minutes played to goals may be a better ration than the others ! Also Ira is not really a giving player, he has one aim in mind and that's to increase his goal tally. Not necessarily a bad thing, but he does often spurn other options to try his luck. Neil has to take some responsibility for consistently playing Jerson when he is obviously going through a dry spell, that only leaves Ira to score, so what does he expect ?
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Post by gerryhan on Feb 26, 2020 10:03:44 GMT
Agree with most of that XJ but you still need a physical central attacker at least. We don't have an effective one at the moment.
We have some strong players to come in, and some good partnerships e.g Alfie, Kieron down the left ( best for both in my opinion ) JV and Ira down the right. I would put Mev back at center half where his influence was terrific and give Ronnie, Sam Hasler and Heardie the midfield roles.
Center forward remains a problem, unless Jerson can discover some kind of form. (He did look a bit better when he came on last night!)
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Post by gerryhan on Feb 26, 2020 10:30:39 GMT
Something else I think we should consider. Finn O Mara moved into the holding midfield role towards the end, and to me, that looks a natural fit. Strong, good on the deck, two-footed. It would also free up Mev for our back four!
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Post by finbarr_in_z on Feb 26, 2020 12:43:46 GMT
Last night showed which players are capable of competing at that level. Tyler and Ira were excellent for the first twenty but as Neil has just said in a Kent Online Article he’s relying on Ira to score goals. Dartford have been competing at the high end of the National South for a few years now so it was always going to be a tough task. I don't think that article is fair, Jo has not had the minutes on the pitch to be comparable, you may find that his minutes played to goals may be a better ration than the others ! Also Ira is not really a giving player, he has one aim in mind and that's to increase his goal tally. Not necessarily a bad thing, but he does often spurn other options to try his luck. Neil has to take some responsibility for consistently playing Jerson when he is obviously going through a dry spell, that only leaves Ira to score, so what does he expect ? Article being mentioned for those who haven't seen it www.kentonline.co.uk/folkestone/sport/ira-cant-do-it-alone-222663/
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Post by finbarr_in_z on Feb 26, 2020 12:56:41 GMT
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Post by jbm on Feb 26, 2020 12:58:40 GMT
Strange article but one of Cugleys Man management techniques. Scored 2nd most goals in the league (with a few other clubs I believe). Get goals from right around the team. Don’t have the stats but the left back and right back have chipped in with a few. When you don’t play certain people in there correct positions and persist playing someone who’s confidence is low, best thing to do is batter them in the press saying they don’t score enough. How about they train on certain things? Oh I forgot they don’t really train either. Ira has that free role where he is allowed to take on 5 people at a time and inevitably try and take on a shot (that’s not a complaint because he’s very good at it as shown in his goal scoring this season), but it obviously means others won’t score as much, it’s just a fact !
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Post by finbarr_in_z on Feb 26, 2020 13:00:54 GMT
Highlights / goals www.puredfc.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=500&start=20Goals are below Nash scores Dartford’s 1st V Folkestone KSC Hyde scores Dartford’s 2nd from the spot V Folkestone KSC Crook scores Dartford’s 3rd V Folkestone KSC Romain scores Dartford’s 4th V Folkestone KSC
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Post by Joel on Feb 26, 2020 14:07:17 GMT
Strange article but one of Cugleys Man management techniques. Scored 2nd most goals in the league (with a few other clubs I believe). Get goals from right around the team. Don’t have the stats but the left back and right back have chipped in with a few. When you don’t play certain people in there correct positions and persist playing someone who’s confidence is low, best thing to do is batter them in the press saying they don’t score enough. How about they train on certain things? Oh I forgot they don’t really train either. Ira has that free role where he is allowed to take on 5 people at a time and inevitably try and take on a shot (that’s not a complaint because he’s very good at it as shown in his goal scoring this season), but it obviously means others won’t score as much, it’s just a fact ! One part of this comment is completely wrong. 'Oh I forgot they don't really train either' My opinion as I am one of the only 'fans' as such that goes to training they work on a lot obviously in the past we didn't train but now it is consistent but with quite a few Tuesday night's at the moment they haven't trained. I have been impressed with some of the training sessions I have watched and Neil, Mev and Edgey work them hard. But Once again this is an Open Forum so this is only my opinion you can agree or disagree.
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Post by xjr on Feb 26, 2020 15:49:38 GMT
Strange article but one of Cugleys Man management techniques. Scored 2nd most goals in the league (with a few other clubs I believe). Get goals from right around the team. Don’t have the stats but the left back and right back have chipped in with a few. When you don’t play certain people in there correct positions and persist playing someone who’s confidence is low, best thing to do is batter them in the press saying they don’t score enough. How about they train on certain things? Oh I forgot they don’t really train either. Ira has that free role where he is allowed to take on 5 people at a time and inevitably try and take on a shot (that’s not a complaint because he’s very good at it as shown in his goal scoring this season), but it obviously means others won’t score as much, it’s just a fact ! One part of this comment is completely wrong. 'Oh I forgot they don't really train either' My opinion as I am one of the only 'fans' as such that goes to training they work on a lot obviously in the past we didn't train but now it is consistent but with quite a few Tuesday night's at the moment they haven't trained. I have been impressed with some of the training sessions I have watched and Neil, Mev and Edgey work them hard. But Once again this is an Open Forum so this is only my opinion you can agree or disagree. Wouldn't dare
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Post by stumpy on Feb 26, 2020 16:37:10 GMT
I can't be bothered to read Cugs's interview because he rarely talks sense after a disappointing defeat. However, if he is complaining because we are over-reliant on Ira for our goals, whose fault is that?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2020 18:16:09 GMT
I don't think that article is fair, Jo has not had the minutes on the pitch to be comparable, you may find that his minutes played to goals may be a better ration than the others in the league Johan has a goal every 359 minutes. In all comps it’s a goal every 150 minutes. He’s played 55% of all possible minutes both in league and in all comps. That’s correct up to Worthing.
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Post by jbm on Feb 26, 2020 18:46:34 GMT
You can’t just take that on face value though, because 10 minutes here and there all add up but don’t show the state of the game at the time. Also he most certainly isnt a midfielder which adds to your stats. Also got to think about overall contribution. McCanns goalscoring stats aren’t anything to write home about but you have to look at everything else he does for the team. Just think Neil should do the same for other players
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2020 19:25:52 GMT
Take it how you wish, I just posted my stats without comment.
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Post by adedawkes on Feb 26, 2020 20:51:16 GMT
Bit of a men v boys game ? We had first 20 minutes and looked good until they scored after that only one winner unfortunately just goes to show what we’re looking at week in week out in the national League South if we get there!!!
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Post by number5 on Feb 26, 2020 21:59:43 GMT
Slightly confused by your proposed team selection again Gerryhan - I think I'm gathering from your posts that you want, Mev at centre back (who are you dropping Callum or Newman?) and your midfield 3 is Hasler, Kieran and Ronnie? But then you've flopped to a midfield 4 with Finn in place of Mev now added. Which leaves a front 2 presumably between Jerson (out of form but you still seem to suggest we need a targett man), Johan and Ira.
You don't seem to have included Heardy in your team (unless he's a contender for an attacking or full back position) and yet your match report from last night had Heardy putting a real shift and in the first 20 mins looked as good as anything of theirs.
We're all entitled to views and opinions of course.
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