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Post by thebishop on Jan 18, 2020 20:30:40 GMT
“15 Invicta fans” rather more than that.16 on the coach to start with,some probably wondered what they bothered,2-0 up and looking ok than started to drop back and let the Rocks defence have time and space to play from the back.Chinny didn’t look match fit but to be replaced at halftime with Jerson D-S rather than Johan was a surprise to some.Jerson must learn the offside rule,once again caught out several times in promising situations....O’Mara left on the bench when his presence,height and tackling was missed in midfield.A disappointing result for the faithful travellers,and the club as a whole
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Post by thebishop on Jan 18, 2020 20:32:09 GMT
Don’t think any blame can be aimed at Tim,several saves to keep the rocks at bay...
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Post by gerryhan on Jan 18, 2020 21:09:56 GMT
This was a cruel cruel way to lose a game, in the ninetieth minute! particularly when you had been 2-0 up after a quarter of an hour and 3-1 up well into the second half.
It begs the question, why?
Well, it was obvious from the first few minutes that Bognor like to play it out, right from the back. Now you can press them and stop that, or you can stand off and invite them to enjoy the game. Which is what we did once we had gone 2-0 up. They were two well-worked goals too. The first a great move culminating in Chinny playing Ira in who finished calmly. The second, Chinny was first to the ball and was fouled by the keeper for a penalty ( sending off for the keeper, maybe? ) Ira finished cooly.
At this point, I felt we were giving them far too much time and space to play the ball out from the back. Sure enough, they scored right on half time, 2-1. Game on now, but against the run of play, shortly after half time Ira is taken down in the box. Gets up to slot it home 3-1.
At this point, I felt that we needed an extra body in midfield to make it tighter in there. We had Finn on the bench. Nothing wrong with bringing on a midfielder for an attacker when you are 3-1 up away from home ( Although just then Ira had a great chance to make it 4-1 when he was in one on one with the keeper but blasted it, instead of just placing it as he had his other goals). I thought, go 4-4-2 with extra cover for your full-backs ( JV, in particular, was being doubled up on, down their left!)
But they soon pulled it back to 3-2 and we were now under the cosh a bit.They got their equalizer on about 85 mins when Tim stopped the low shot but it squirmed in under his body. We still made chances to win the game at this stage. late on in the game, Jerson backheeled the ball wide, two yards from goal, it just about summed up his afternoon! He had come on at half time for a weary Chinny. He also managed to got caught offside on four or five occasions !
And finally, in the 91st minute, we concede that heartbreaker to make it 4-3. A classic game for the neutral, but not us. We were choked, as were the players. We had played some great football at times but were let down tactically in my estimation.
I saw two standout problems today. One is that because of our set up, JV is often left exposed, and the second is that we urgently need to find a centre forward until such time that Chinny gets match fit.
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Post by redrebel on Jan 18, 2020 21:40:07 GMT
Bloody hell gerryhan, after that really in depth analyis, why you are not the Manager,beggars belief. Maybe you should get off your couch and tell the most successful Manager your club has ever had where he is going wrong. Very easy game from the touchline or couch.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2020 21:41:00 GMT
Too much of a tendency to retreat when 2 goals up for my liking. Then if we concede one the nerves kick in and we retreat further and invite even more pressure. Much better going forward though than it was in the last two games. Onwards and upwards.
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Post by colash on Jan 18, 2020 21:46:54 GMT
Bloody hell gerryhan, after that really in depth analyis, why you are not the Manager,beggars belief. Maybe you should get off your couch and tell the most successful Manager your club has ever had where he is going wrong. Very easy game from the touchline or couch. He's the only Manager we have had. |
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Post by gerryhan on Jan 18, 2020 21:51:32 GMT
I was at the game Red rebel, not on my couch. What was your take on the game then? This is a fans` forum where we air our views. I would love to hear your take on the game.
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Post by finbarr_in_z on Jan 18, 2020 22:24:03 GMT
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Post by redrebel on Jan 18, 2020 22:29:17 GMT
No Gerryhan, I Wasn't at the game because I was at Brightlinsea. I am a lifelong Worthing fan, with a passion for Non-League football. However, I can see what a fantastic job Neil Cugley has done at your club. The game is very easy from the terraces.
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Post by gerryhan on Jan 18, 2020 22:34:51 GMT
What on earth are you doing on our fans forum?
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Post by gerryhan on Jan 18, 2020 22:44:04 GMT
Is this allowed Colin? This is not the first time this guy has come on our Forum making comments. He has got to be a bit strange.
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Post by finbarr_in_z on Jan 18, 2020 23:27:21 GMT
Everyone is welcome.
Sometimes I go on other clubs forums although generally not after games as things can be a bit raw.
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Post by finbarr_in_z on Jan 18, 2020 23:28:24 GMT
Went through a crowd. I assume Tim didn't see it until too late. |
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Post by stumpy on Jan 18, 2020 23:39:47 GMT
Is this allowed Colin? This is not the first time this guy has come on our Forum making comments. He has got to be a bit strange. I think he was stirring a little bit and looking for a bite, which he got  Interesting what you said about them doubling up on JV. They did that in the home game as well, and we didn't make any adjustments to handle it then either. As Redrebel points out, Cugs is the most successful manager we've ever head. True. And for the same reason, he's the most tactically inept manager we've ever had as well. What I think is true is that, having gone through a long spell when the results have been good (even if the performances haven't always been) and where Cugs didn't have to think very hard about selection, tactics, etc., we are now going through a very sticky patch which is threatening to throw away much of the good work up till now. Let's see if Cugs can come up with something to turn it round... |
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Post by thebishop on Jan 19, 2020 0:34:10 GMT
“He’s the only manager we have had “ certainly seems that way.....think Gary Staniforth was in charge when FIFC took over the Cheriton Road ground in 1991 and then had several others before Cugley was appointed
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Post by jt on Jan 19, 2020 3:23:10 GMT
Almost as if certain management don't want to be promoted.
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Post by simondo on Jan 19, 2020 8:22:19 GMT
I was quite impressed with the Bognor ground & facilities - quite welcoming. Not a bad turnout of fans either, so better than most.
I don't know how many FIFC fans were there, but more than the 15 claimed. Perhaps 30-35.
Very nice pub down the road too,'head for the sun Gerry'.
So things were looking up, especially early doors with two goals first half until the last 10 min's of it that is.
The penalties? First one was soft,the second not quite so.
Gerry is right, we did invite them on, especially second half, so were masters of our own misfortune to a certain extent. We had some chances too, but are are still struggling to score goals in open play.
Ira dominated everywhere he went and as mentioned could have had at least one more goal.
I too was a bit disappointed not to see Johan come on, but it seems that Cug's was prepared to give the Jerson dice yet another throw.
So Cug's has to put his thinking cap on to solve the conundrum.
Coach trip back was a bit subdued to say the least, but we pick ourselves up! There were some very good performances out there yesterday, so there is some cheer.
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Post by gerryhan on Jan 19, 2020 9:03:54 GMT
Totally agree Simon, no way was it all bad, in fact we started off playing some great stuff until we went 2-0 up.! But right from the start, when you could see that they liked to take their time and play it out, we should have been pressing them.
I think 4-3-3 can be a great system but it does entail the front three having to press. Particularly against a team who like to play it out, right from their keeper. We did that for the first twenty yesterday and could well have been three up after half an hour.
But there were many fine performances out there against a very good Bognor team who were really ` up for it` on the day. ( We get this a lot since we went top !) Yes, Jerson worked hard when he came on but it's not happening for him at this moment in time. Chinny looks a good player but was exhausted by half time. Clearly not match fit. We need to sort that problem soon.
Many of us felt too that Fin O Mara could have come in and bolstered our midfield in that second half. We have a good set of players now. We just need to get the balance right in my opinion.
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Post by gerryhan on Jan 19, 2020 9:07:39 GMT
Stumpy. That was no wind up from that strange Worthing supporter. He has gone after me in the past for my comments. I should have ignored him as I did last time and will in the future!!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2020 9:48:09 GMT
1st penalty doesn't look as soft from that angle as I thought at the time. but chinny was still looking for it and the keeper was daft to give it to him. can't have many complaints. second looks softer than I thought it was at the time, not sure how much he caught Ira.
the number 5 was brilliant. apart from scoring the 3rd his 30m legs constantly picks off passes that would have gone in behind 99% of other centre halves.
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Post by harryl on Jan 19, 2020 10:29:53 GMT
We all have different views on what we should do when we are in front , personally i think we should carry on attacking ,Dusty doesnt agree well he said so when we were 2 nil up  so its a matter of opinions i suppose . IMO Johan should have come on instead of Jergen who once again failed to impress ,very disappointing result , journey home was pretty gloomy ,made even worse by sitting next to Ted !!!  see you all on tues . |
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Post by stumpy on Jan 19, 2020 13:33:51 GMT
We all have different views on what we should do when we are in front , personally i think we should carry on attacking I'm with you on that one, Harry. We're a much better team with the ball than without and tend to win when we play on the front foot. As for sitting next to Ted, somebody has to... |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2020 12:03:22 GMT
For the masochists
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Post by paul All Type pumps on Jan 20, 2020 14:50:03 GMT
How was there 3rd goal not ruled out for offside? there player is in an offside position and standing in front of Tim restricting his view so should it not be offside?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2020 14:55:47 GMT
How was there 3rd goal not ruled out for offside? there player is in an offside position and standing in front of Tim restricting his view so should it not be offside? Don’t think we’ve got the time to get into the mess that is the offside law! |
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Post by kentjambo on Jan 20, 2020 17:04:14 GMT
How was there 3rd goal not ruled out for offside? there player is in an offside position and standing in front of Tim restricting his view so should it not be offside? Their first goal, look where their keepers foot is when he throws the ball. It's outside the area...handball! |
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Post by gerryhan on Jan 20, 2020 17:06:43 GMT
Their offside player seemed to be right in Tim’s line of vision 😩
Law interpretation I suppose. Should not have lost this game though.
Football can be cruel sometimes.
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Post by reddevil on Jan 21, 2020 8:36:09 GMT
Is it enough to be one of the top sides in this division? With the squad we have rotation and use of substitutions is a must.Frustrated at the lack of both ,as the players must be .
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so its a matter of opinions i suppose . IMO Johan should have come on instead of Jergen who once again failed to impress ,very disappointing result , journey home was pretty gloomy ,made even worse by sitting next to Ted !!! 
see you all on tues . 